Saudi Prince Alwaleed bin Talal: Absolutely fabulous bigotry

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Alwaleed bin Talal

Sadly enough, the world's wealthiest Wahhabi Hillbilly did not become famous for this too-sexy-for-my-mustache shot.

His fame (or rather, his infamy) came immediately after the Saudi-financed 9/11 attacks, when Rudy Giuliani eloquently told the prince to take his $10 million check and shove it.

Rudy said: "There is no moral equivalent for this attack. The people who did it lost any right to ask for justification when they slaughtered . . . innocent people"

Rudy Giuliani will probably go down in history as the only human being who has ever turned down blood money..umm..a..bribe..a..donation from a Saud.

However, in the fabulous circles that the Prince travels in, he's still worshipped by all the right people.

If there's ever a film of his life, it would be called "The Magic Muslim" and it would be modeled on the Peter Sellers' The Magic Christian. If you're not a fan of old British satires, here's a review.

Sir Guy Grand (Peter Sellers) is an eccentric billionaire who, together with his newly adopted heir (formerly a homeless derelict), Youngman Grand (Ringo Starr), start playing elaborate practical jokes on people. A big spender, Grand doesn't mind handing out large sums of money to various people, bribing them to fulfill his whims, or shocking them by bringing down what they hold dear...

...In the final scene of the movie, Guy Grand wanting to find out how far people can go for money, fills up a huge vat with urine, blood and animal excerments and sprinkles it avidly with paper money. In a choreorgraphic way, a crowd of gents approaches the vat and after some indecision starts stepping in to grab the cash. Having forgotten all sense of disgust many even start taking dives in it.

Participants in recent orgies of Magic Muslim-inspired excrement-diving include Bill Clinton, realists like James Baker, most governments worldwide, most universities, corporations and, most recently, Georgetown University.
Georgetown gets $20 million from prince promoting Islam. Just months later, university ejects evangelical Christians from campus

The Center for Muslim-Christian Understanding at Georgetown University has been renamed after Saudi Prince Alwaleed bin Talal donated $20 million to its projects. And while that may be just the tail, the dog appears to be moving away from its historic Catholic and Jesuit teaching philosophy too.

The Center's leaders say it now will be used to put on workshops regarding Islam, fostering exchanges with the Muslim world, addressing U.S. policy towards the Muslim world, working on the relationship of Islam and Arab culture, addressing Muslim citizenship and civil liberties, and developing exchange programs for students from the Muslim world.

The "Christian" part of the center's projects at the university that has a history of 200 years of higher education following its Christian founding, is conspicuous by its absence in its website plans for its 10-year future.

But that won't be a surprise to leaders of a number of Christian evangelical groups whose leaders recently were told to leave the campus and not list Georgetown University as a site for operations in the future.

Phyllis Chesler also provided Georgetown University's contact info, if you'd like to complain:

President John J. DeGioia
Office of the President
204 Healy Hall
37th & O Streets, NW
Washington, DC 20057

Of course if we're going to complain about this latest exercise in greed orgies and excrement diving, well have to complain to everyone who accepts blood money..umm..bribery..umm...generosity from Magic Mulsims like Talal.

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bush abdullah

A lot of letters, but not such a bad idea....

Posted by Mary Madigan on Monday October 30, 2006 at 4:07pm
SaxaCalHoya (mail):
Interesting post, I would encourage you to learn more about the situations in which you blog about, I know it is easy to cut-n-paste and add some of your own text ... but it would probably be prudent to check the facts before accepting the statements of just anyone. A simple Google search would have show how flawed this "news article" actually was and that just because it was on another blog you read that maybe you shouldn't trust the original source. Actually, if WND would have done any actual research they would have realized that conflate multiple unrelated issues and did not accurately report any of them.

First, it discussed a donation that has nothing to do with the Protestant ministry at Georgetown. In fact, the situation it mentions only deals with a few outside affiliated Protestant groups that had non-binding covenants with Georgetown. They failed to meet their commitments under the covenants they signed and those covenants were not renewed. The groups are still allowed on campus (and in fact continue to hold their meetings as they did in the past) through the invitation of students, but there is no formal relationship between them and the University. However, these groups are just one piece of Protestant fellowship on campus. The Protestant ministry's staff has actually been strengthened over the past few years with the addition of full-time chaplains and it is the addition of these staff members and other additional resources that continue to work to grow the ministry on the Georgetown University community.

Second, it failed to recognize that Prince Alwaleed Bin Talal is an international businessman with investments in everything from computers to hotels to theme parks and that he -- like other investors -- give charitable donations to different organizations, including universities. In fact, Prince Alwaleed Bin Talal owns more than five percent of Fox News Channel's parent company News Corp; not to mention his investments in Citigroup, in which he now holds a 3.9% stake, as well as major corporations from Apple Computer, Hewlett-Packard, and Kodak to the Four Seasons, The Walt Disney Co. and eBay. Nor did it mention his other charitable contributions including donations to the President George H.W. Bush Sr. Scholarship fund, the Carter Center for Peace and Health Programs in Africa, and Tsunami victims.

Finally, it ignored the fact that the the Center for Muslim-Christian Understanding was well established before the donation and is part of Georgetown's character and tradition of interreligious dialogue from its inception in 1789. In fact, the Center for Muslim-Christian Understanding was actually founded in 1993 well before this donation was made to Georgetown University. Not to mention that Georgetown University was also the first Catholic Jesuit university to hire a full-time Jewish and Muslim chaplains. The University also has one of the foremost Theology departments in the nation, a Catholic Studies program and is establishing a center of Jewish civilization.

Just throwing this out, but then again why would anyone nowadays bother to report the facts anyways ... whether it is the MSM or blogs it seems the facts aren't good for ratings.
10.31.2006 12:32am
Dave J (www):
Ah, another infinitely self-assured and self-righteous Hoya. Not a day goes by that I don't thank God they rejected me and I went to American.
10.31.2006 12:46am
mary (mail) (www):
Just throwing this out, but then again why would anyone nowadays bother to report the facts anyways ... whether it is the MSM or blogs it seems the facts aren't good for ratings.

Thanks for taking a short break from feeding at the Saudi trough to address this issue. Not many other hogs, hoya or otherwise, show such consideration.

And you're right, the article in WND didn't mention the fact that many powerful Americans also feed at the Saudi trough. The list is very long, including (but not limited to) Jimmy Carter, most members of the State Department in the Gulf States, Fox News, Walt Disney company, James Baker. However, I did mention that in my post. It would have helped your argument if you'd read it.

In any case, since you appear to be interested in facts, here are a few facts about Georgetown's Saudi friends:

- Immediately after the 9/11 attacks 95% of Saudis supported bin Laden's cause.

- The Saudi Ambassador to the United States, has met Osama bin Laden and his lieutenants on at least five occasions. He calls bin Laden "quite a pleasant man."

- The relatives of more than 600 victims of the 9/11 attacks believe Turki was connected to their loved ones' deaths.

- He personally managed Riyadh's relations with Osama bin Laden and Mullah Muhammad Omar. Anyone else who had dealings with even a fraction of terrorists Turki has worked with would never make it past a U.S. immigration counter

- Al-Faisal was also named in the $1 trillion lawsuit filed by hundreds of 9/11 victims' families, who accused him of funding bin Laden's network. That lawsuit was dismissed, not because Turki was proven innocent, but because of his 'diplomatic immunity'

- wealthy saudis are still some of the biggest financial supporters of terrorism. For more information, check out the WAMY foundation and the Al Haramain foundation.

- Saudis also don't allow Bibles into the country because posession of a Bible implies "proselytizing." According to the Washington Post, Georgetown has recently asked students to "sign statements saying they would not proselytize"

Taking money from totalitarian Wahhabis is like taking money from the KKK. Taking this money after the 9/11 attacks is equivalent to accepting a donation from Timothy McVeigh after the Oklahoma bombing. Of course there are strings attached. That's why Rudy turned the money down.

It's a shame that he's so unique.
10.31.2006 12:59pm
Tat (mail) (www):
Thank you, Mary; sick as I am with boring cold and unable to speak (a scratchy throat), I was giggling merrily reading your last comment.

Happy Hallowin!
10.31.2006 1:19pm
mary (mail) (www):
Happy Halloween Tatyana - hope you feel better soon!
10.31.2006 1:26pm
Tat (mail) (www):
ooops. My spelling sucks as usual...

Thank you! I was asked to perform as Merylin Merlot (yes)at the Murder Mystery party, but the unintended circumstances...
10.31.2006 1:50pm
mary (mail) (www):
A murder mystery party - that sounds like fun..

Gargling and those cough drops with zinc and echinacea are good for a sore throat. (yes, echinacea has been revealed to be a placebo, but placebos sometimes work)
10.31.2006 3:55pm
Tat (mail) (www):
Aha...I'm at work, dearest Mary! And have been even on a Saturday. Deadline is a hateful word.
Especially when the bosses don't believe in overtime pay...
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